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JLPT N1・N2 Grammar – The difference between “〜ないでもない” and “〜までもない”


Table of Contents

1. The difference between “〜ないでもない” and “〜までもない”
2. 〜ないでもない
3. 〜までもない

4. Let’s Compare
5. Summary
6. Quiz
7. Similar Articles
8. Comments

Q: What is the difference between “〜ないでもない” and “〜までもない”?

A: Both grammar patterns contain “ない,” but their meanings are quite different.

“〜ないでもない” expresses a reserved or limited affirmative meaning, suggesting that something is not completely denied.
In contrast, “〜までもない” means that there is no need to go that far or do something to that extent.

Let’s take a closer look at each one.

〜ないでもない (JLPT N2)

[Meaning]
Not completely ~
Depending on the situation, it may be possible to ~

[Rule]
[V] Verb negative form + でもない

[Examples]
実じつはお酒さけは飲のめないでもないんですよ。

I can drink alcohol, but only to some extent.
⇒ This means that the speaker is not completely unable to drink alcohol and can drink a small amount.

小説しょうせつは読よまないでもないけど、読よんでいるとすぐに眠ねむくなってしまいます。
I do read novels sometimes, but I quickly get sleepy when I do.
⇒ This means that the speaker does not completely avoid reading novels, but does not read them very actively or often.

A「この時計とけいはもう直なおせないかな。」
B「うーん、直なおせないでもないと思おもう。ちょっとやってみよう。」

A: “Do you think this watch can’t be fixed anymore?”
B: “Hmm, I think it might still be fixable. Let me give it a try.”

⇒ This means that fixing the watch is not completely impossible and that there is still a possibility it can be repaired.

〜までもない (JLPT N1)

[Meaning]
There is no need to go as far as doing ~
Something can be handled sufficiently in a simpler way

[Rule]
[V] Verb dictionary form+までもない

[Examples]
こんな子供こどもでも分わかること、説明せつめいするまでもないですよ。

Even a child can understand this, so there’s no need to explain it.
⇒ This means that the matter is so simple that it is not worth going out of one’s way to explain it.

この小説しょうせつは本当ほんとうにつまらなかったから、読よむまでもありません。
This novel was really boring, so it’s not even worth reading.
⇒ Rather than simply meaning that there is no need to read it, this means that the novel is not worth reading.

少すこし疲つかれているだけだから病院びょういんに行いって診みてもらうまでもないです。

I’m just a little tired, so there’s no need to go to the hospital and get checked.
⇒ This means that the symptoms are mild and not serious enough to require going to the hospital for an examination.

Let’s Compare

The two main differences are as follows:

“〜ないでもない” = It does not completely deny something.
“〜までもない” = There is no need to go that far.

[ないでもない]

“〜ないでもない” uses repeated negation to express a reserved or limited affirmative meaning.

Rather than clearly saying “I can” or “I will,” it conveys nuances such as:

  • it is not completely impossible
  • it may be possible under certain conditions
  • there are situations in which it may happen

It is often used when talking about personal judgments or possibilities.

[Examples]
お酒さけは飲のめないでもないんですが、飲のんでもビール一いっ杯ぱいぐらいですね。

I can drink alcohol, but only about one glass of beer.
⇒ This means that the speaker is not completely unable to drink alcohol and can drink a small amount.

忙いそがしいけど、1時間じかんぐらいならできないでもないから、会議かいぎ室しつを予約よやくしておこう。
I’m busy, but I could probably manage an hour, so let’s reserve a meeting room.
⇒ Rather than completely saying that it is impossible, the speaker is giving a reserved affirmative response that suggests it may be possible for about an hour.

[までもない]

“〜までもない” does not simply mean “you don’t have to ~.” It expresses the speaker’s judgment that there is no need to go that far or that something is not serious or important enough to require that action.

It is used when something is not particularly important or serious, or when a simpler method is sufficient.

[Examples]
こんな簡単かんたんで子供こどもでも分わかるようなこと、説明せつめいするまでもないでしょ。

This is so simple that even a child can understand it, so there’s no need to explain it.
⇒ This means that the matter is so simple that it is not worth going out of one’s way to explain it.
 
歩あるけるんだし、わざわざ救急きゅうきゅう車しゃを呼よぶまでもないです。
You can still walk, so there’s no need to go as far as calling an ambulance.
⇒ This means that the situation is not serious enough to require an ambulance and can be handled sufficiently in another way.

Summary

[〜ないでもない]

  • Expresses a reserved affirmative meaning: “it is not completely impossible” or “it is not entirely untrue.”
  • Indicates that something may be possible depending on the conditions.
  • Used when the speaker wants to avoid giving a clear affirmative answer and leave some room for uncertainty.

[〜までもない]

  • Means “there is no need to go that far” or “it is not serious or important enough to require that action.”
  • Indicates that a situation is not important or serious enough to justify a particular action.
  • Can also be used when the situation can be handled sufficiently in another way.

Quiz

Read the following sentence and choose the expression that fits the context from the options provided in the parentheses.

Click on the question to check the answer.

Q1. このクッキー、食たべられ(ないでもない・までもない)けど、残のこそうかな…。

A. ないでもない

このクッキー、食たべられないでもないけど、残のこそうかな…。  

I could eat this cookie, but maybe I’ll leave it.

*Since the speaker is not saying that they absolutely cannot eat it, but rather that they could eat it if they wanted to, “ないでもない” is the correct answer.


Q2. 説明せつめい書しょを見みればわかるんだから、店みせの人ひとに聞きく(ないでもない・までもない)よ。

A. までもない

説明せつめい書しょを見みればわかるんだから、店みせの人ひとに聞きくまでもないよ。  

If you read the instructions, you’ll understand, so there’s no need to ask the store staff.

*Since the instructions are enough to understand what to do, there is no need to go out of your way to ask the store staff. Therefore, “までもない” is the correct answer.


Q3. 今いまならまだ飛行ひこう機きのチケットが取とれ(ないでもない・までもない)と思おもうよ。一いち度どホームページで見みてみよう。

A. ないでもない

今いまならまだ飛行ひこう機きのチケットが取とれないでもないと思おもうよ。一いち度どホームページで見みてみよう。

I think we might still be able to get a plane ticket. Let’s check the website.

*The speaker is not saying that getting a ticket is completely impossible, but rather that there is still a possibility of getting one. Therefore, “ないでもない” is the correct answer.


Q4. あのレストランは人気にんきらしいけど、そんなにおいしいと思おもわなかった。1時間じかんも並ならんで食たべる(ないでもない・までもない)よ。

A. までもない

あのレストランは人気にんきらしいけど、そんなにおいしいと思おもわなかった。1時間じかんも並ならんで食たべるまでもないよ。  

I heard that restaurant is popular, but I didn’t think it was that good. It’s not worth waiting an hour to eat there.

*The speaker means that the restaurant is not worth waiting an hour for—in other words, it is not good enough to justify going that far. Therefore, “までもない” is the correct answer.

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